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Sunday, November 30, 2025

Growtac Equal post mount brake review

 Growtac Equal post mount brakes

I have been using the flat mount Growtac equal brakes on my gravel bike since 2023 and I have no complaints. There were a marked improvement over my SRAM Force hydros which had started rubbing and dragging. If I hear anything like that with the Growtacs I am out with the allen key and give one of the pads a whisker of a turn.

When my friend was in Japan again a while back I got him to pick me up a pair of the post mount versions for my hardtail/bikepacking bike. We had already fitted a nice gold pair on his Singular Gryphon, when we bought my flat mount ones. 

New post mount brakes
Matt's post mount brakes circa 2023

I fitted my new front one with a 180mm rotor in case I found them underpowered on a loaded bike. I paired them with some entry level shimano short-pull flat bar levers. They are not Pauls, but they do work very well, and I am always going to side on function over form - and price of course! With the crappy NZ dollar, I would not being buying these shiny things if I could not get them at the domestic Japanese market price.

Anyway. The Big Finish Line Party bikepacking event was coming up (around 400 kms) and I figured it would be a pretty good test of the Growtacs. 4 days of primo NZ singletrack, on a loaded bike should tell me of any short-comings. I was running the standard pads that they come with which they call "sintered organic", so I was expecting that if the trails were wet I would be experiencing some wear. I do not usually use organic pads if I think it's going to be super wet. My spares were the normal shimano sintered metal pads that I use on my shimano equipped hydraulic braked bike. The Growtac ones are the same shape as the shimano's and are made by Vesrah. 

Set up on my Cannondale Flash bikepacking hardtail

The trails were a little wet, but not overly so. At the end of day one, the Old Ghost road, 93 kms and 2,200 metres climbing, and probably a lot more descending, I gave the pads a little tweak. If you had hydraulic brakes, they would do this themselves. Personally, I don't find it a problem. Knowing how much your brakes have worn is a feature in my view and unless you are riding in wet conditions on organic pads, there's going to be nothing to tweak anyway.

The Old Ghost road

Day 2 we tootled down the coast and took in the new Kawatiri trail. Really nice and family friendly, but not a test for the brakes. 

Day 3 we climbed the Paparoa Trail and down into Ikamatua via the Pike 29 track. A real blast. The twisty decent through the beautiful beech forest was a really good test for the Growtacs and I had zero issues keeping up with my buddy on his hydraulic system. 

Day 4 through Waiuta and Big River was another beauty, but nothing too hard. Just a bit of riding through stream/river beds, and we missed the rain.

Big River on the West Coast

So pretty much nothing to report really. The brakes were rock solid. Nothing to bleed. No contaminated pads. My next event is the Taupo Gravel Grind which I will be doing on my OPEN UP, with the flat mount brakes. Did I mention I really like these brakes! 

Entry level shimano short-pull levers.

The Growtac equal brakes themselves weigh 138 grams each, supposedly the lightest cable operated brakes out there, and should be used with compressionless housing for the best results.

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Monday, September 22, 2025

OPENING UP about my gravel bike journey

 “Getting the green light to build my dream bike wasn't all I imagined it would be.”  

I have always been more of a forager, building up bikes from other people's discards, as my reintroduction to cycling came at the same time as our first mortgage and a young family, about 35 years ago. Spending money on myself has always been hard. The stress of picking each and every component without boundaries was really getting to me and I could see my financier getting annoyed at the time I was spending on research.  

I had been initially talking to Dimitry at Triton about a custom Ti frame when I ended up chatting to Kashi Leuchs at Black Seal, the local importer for OPEN. I was Kashi's webmaster back in the day when he rode with Cadel Evans, Tinker Juarez and Christoph Sauser on the Volvo Cannondale team. This was my only source of fruity parts way back then; contra deals with Kashi. He offered me his demonstrator OPEN UP for a good price and my problem was solved or was it.... 

Outside the gun emplacements at Waimapihi

There were some issues. I wasn't a fan of many of the features that modern bikes come with out of the box. Internal cable routing, 1x, press fit BBs and sram hydro were all things I had managed to avoid up until then, or had bad experiences with previously. 

The first thing I did was to locate some left-hand shifter internals to turn it into a 2x. The good news is that Sram cable shifters are incredibly easy to work on, assuming you can source the replacement parts. A friend of a friend found some for me in Australia luckily. I replaced the rear 1x derailleur with a WiFli Force 2x variant, a road-link, an 11-42 cassette, and a 46/34 chain-ring combo on the front. Ideally an early model 10 speed exact actuation mtb derailleur from sram would have been great but the cable exit port position for the OPEN wasn't compatible. This was pretty common at the time, but I see a lot of the more recently designed bikes that support cable shifting have the cables exiting mid chain-stay rather than from the very endpoint of the frame which really “opens up” derailleur choice… 

Cheeky Quail photobombing at Waimapihi

Unfortunately, my next problem was chain derailment which happened a lot with the kind of riding I was doing, mostly trail riding, Cyclocross and some bikepacking. I got hooked on bikepacking in 2010 when Simon Kennett introduced the concept to Aotearoa after he did the 2008 Great Divide. I have only bikepacked on the OPEN UP a handful of times, two of them on the 800 km plus Renegades Muster, but I wanted the OPEN to be bikepacking capable if the course suited. The 2x set-up wasn't giving me low enough gearing on the steepest parts unfortunately the first time I did it. Common sense at this point would have been to go straight to Shimano GRX for the only clutched 2x system available at the time, but I was still persevering with the Sram ecosystem, and trying not to blow more money. 

 Ratio-technology from the UK had started building 12 speed upgrade kits for cable Sram shifters when it became obvious that Sram were not going to support the 12speed cable shifting at the time. Before long Ratio were also building extender cages for 1x sram derailleurs so I eventually went back to 1x and grabbed one of their long cages so I could shift into a 52 on the back if need be. I could have gone to 12 or 13 speed shifting with one of their replacement ratchets, but I stayed with 11 speed so I could keep my current wheels and installed a Garbaruk 11-50 cassette on the back. The lower gears were a big advantage with the type of riding I do. 

Ratio derailer extender cage.
Garbaruk 11-50 11 speed.

Being ideologically opposed to electric gears I still had one major beef with the OPEN's design. I hated the internal cable routing, having to remove the crank and BB just to replace a derailleur cable was not good for my blood pressure. Especially when the appropriate BB removal tool failed to budge the original creaking plastic BB. 

The fix came in two parts, a screw-together Wheels Manufacturing BB and full-length internal cable housing. The screw-in BB was effectively self-extracting with the un-screw, tap, un-screw, tap extraction method with a small rubber mallet. But to be honest, the BB shell does not need to come out now anyway, I just tap the bearings out if they need replacing. 

My next improvement came with the addition of some funky blue Growtac Equal cable brakes, at least the equal of my hydros, and when paired with Sram red cable shifters, a few grams lighter than the standard Sram Force hydros. I was super impressed with the brakes, the power, the light action, the adjustability, and the colour. My days of bleeding draggy brakes were over. I have been hammering these brakes for a good while now and really enjoy having the ability to adjust them on the fly if needed. It’s actually a feature, knowing if your brakes need adjustment, not something that you get a heads-up for with hydros which take up the slack automatically, until you hear that sound of metal on metal. The stock sintered organic pads last incredibly well. Normally I would only use sintered metal. 



Growtac Equal brakes paired with Sram Red. Light, strong, adjustable.
 When Growtac announced their new stepless (friction) drop-bar shifters on the Japanese domestic market I was lucky that a friend was in Japan and was able to snaffle me a pair. The ability to use any old derailleur or cassette with their shifters feels very liberating to me and so far, I have been very happy with the way they work. I really feel like they had me in mind when they came up with this concept. The levers are not unlike the Sram red cable levers I was using previously in that they are quite narrow, although the finish looks a bit like Campagnolo Ekar, and the inner shift lever also looks a tad Campy. Despite the hard edges on this inside shifter, it never caused me any issues with kit clearance or rubbing on my hands during the 4 days of the 830 km Renegades Muster. The shifting is surprisingly quiet, and you can adjust the amount of friction in the system. It is apparently possible to link up the left and right levers so you can shift up on one shifter and down on the other, I haven’t tried this, but Growtac show videos of it working.  

The initial set-up is a bit more complicated than a typical shifter installation because you are able to install different sized shifting drums, depending on whether you are using a road or mtb derailleur. I don’t know just how far the launch has gone in Japan or what the plans are internationally. I think the Japanese dollar might have had an effect. 

With the ability to run both 650b and 700c wheels on the OPEN UP I have a bike that can change from trail to commuter mode in minutes. It's not a cafe bike and gets a pretty hard time - mostly on the local trails on our weekend rides. To be honest it spends most time with the 650b wheels on as I have a bunch of old 26ers I tend to commute on. 

As mentioned I have done a couple of bikepacking events on the OPEN using different sized wheels each time, and I definitely prefer the 650b's. For bikepacking I throw on my dyno wheel, klite lights, B-17 saddle and aero-bars for the long days and go down on the front from a 40 to a 36-tooth chain-ring. For cross season the 700's go back on. 


Day 2 on the 2024 Renegades Muster

I've used 43 mm tires on the 700c wheels, although clearance officially maxes out at 40 mm. In 650b mode, 50 mm seems to be the max but you can go a lot bigger on the front. It's a shame that 650b has fallen out of favour but the difference in height between a 50 mm 650b and a 38 mm 700c wheel feels minimal, so I am always going to prefer that over a 700 c wheel that just gets taller or smaller depending on if you are running a 50 mm tire vs a 35 mm tire. 

I feel like the bike is pretty sorted currently. I could go back to 2x now that I have brand agnostic shifters but I'm probably just going to take the lazy option and go up or down on the front chain-ring sizing depending on what I am doing. 

I haven't ruled out externally routing the rear shifter cable housing for a better path, but with friction shifting, your gears are never actually out of adjustment anyway. 

The OPEN UP’s design is pretty old by modern gravel bike standards but somehow it still does a really good job of anything that I've thrown at it so far. I won’t be moving it on anytime soon. 


Details 

  • Frame: OPEN UP generation 2 
  • Shifters/levers: Growtac Equal Control stepless 
  • Brakes: Growtac Equal 
  • Rear Mech: Sram Rival with Ratio-technology SR52 cage 
  • Front Wheel: Hunt 650b or Easton 700c or SP dyno hub in 700c with Stans rim 
  • Rear Wheel: DTSWISS 650b or Easton 700c 
  • Tires: Specialized Fastrak in 650b x 2.0/Raceking 2.2 or Rene Herse Barlow Pass  
  • Cassette: Garbaruk 11-50, 11 speed or Shimano XTR 11-40, 11 speed 
  • Cranks: Sram Force 
  • Chainrings: 36 or 42 
  • Pedals: Shimano XT 
  • Seatpost: Thompson Elite 
  • Seat collar: OPEN 
  • Saddle: Specialized Power 168 mm or Brooks B-17 
  • Headset: Cane Creek 
  • BB: Wheels Manufacturing screw-in 
  • Stem: Cheapie weener UNO 
  • Bars: Ritchey Venturemax 


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Saturday, January 06, 2024

Growtac Equal brakes review

 When I saw the Growtac Equal cable brakes come onto the market a while back I wondered how good they would be and if they could be a worthy replacement to the randomly dragging Sram Force hydros on my OPEN UP.

My buddy was doing one of his many trips to Japan for work so the timing was right. There are no agents for Growtac in NZ and buying locally in Japan was a smart move.

As soon as he saw mine he decided he needed a pair for himself, his being gold anodised post mount, vs my blue flat mount variants. 

Flat-mount front


Flat-mount rear
All the reviews I'd seen had been good and at least one of them I trusted. I had several sets of Sram red cable brake/shifters in 10 speed mode so I would need to swap the shifter ratchet from my Force hydro 11 speed into one of the 10 speed cable shifter bodies if I was to retain 11-speed life. Easy peasy. I could have also dropped in a 12 speed Ratio-Technology ratchet, but having an extensive collection of 11 speed cassettes and compatible wheels, I was not that keen to dive into 12 speed life, where the cassette spacings are all different. Sram wide, Sram Road, or Shimano - I don't even know if Shimano MTB is the same as Shimano Road, but I do know that Ratio-Technology makes different ratchets for the first 3. But I digress, this story is about brakes, mostly.....

Sram Red 10-speed cable levers with an 11 speed ratchet borrowed from the Hydros. Very light.

The Growtac kit comes with two sets of cables, compressionless and standard. 2x 170 cms of compressionless and 2x 100 cms of standard. They advise you to use combinations of the standard and compressionless (with a joiner) if you are worried about lots of bendy angles or internal routing paths that might make it tricky. I went with full compression-less, which was a bit wider in diameter than the standard.This made it a bit more of a challenge, forcing it through the cable exit holes in my OPEN, compounded by me not having a proper cable routing tool. I got there in the end with the help of the Rides of Japan OPEN building tutorials which are way more extensive than OPEN's.

Growtac's instructions are precise and very simple to follow, although I used the Japanese instructions rather than hunting down the English versions which are online here. The set-up is very simple. Visually align the "notch" in the brake caliper over the disc rotor by tweaking the inboard and outboard pads. When the caliper is centred, tighten down the caliper's mounting bolts - whether it's flat mount or post mount. Then you back off each pad until there is no dragging. The inboard pad is fixed and the outboard pad moves as you apply the brake. With adjustments via a 3 mm allen key here, and via a nut at the cable adjuster. Dragging brake pads are now a thing of the past.

The inner pad adjuster can be tricky to reach with a multi tool if you are running a large cassette so it's best to carry a small 3 mm separate allen key in your kit.

Although the brakes have a small rubber o-ring inline to stop water ingress the rear brake might benefit from a rubber boot to stop water running down into the cable housing.

Of all the tweaks I've done to my OPEN I think this is the most satisfying. The brake lever action is very light and the braking strong - at least the equal of my old hydros. Maybe that's where the brake's name comes from - "Equal" ? 


I have given these brakes a good thrashing on my local trails over the last month and so far they have performed faultlessly. The kind of riding I do is mostly as I would on a hard-tail, running 2.0 inch 650B tires, often linking up Wellington's trails via our urban short-cuts. For gravel riding and commuting I use the 700 c wheels. 

The Equals are running the stock organic pads, completely silently, but I expect to change to sintered metal when the organics wear out. I haven't ridden the bike with a full Bikepacking load on but my gut feeling is that they would be great. I do not feel like I am missing out on any performance compared to my hydros with these brakes, they are strong and predictable. I am running 160 mm rotors and the silence that comes from this set-up makes it worth every cent. 

Some people ask, what about adjustment, hydros do it automatically as they wear, cable brakes don't. Thats a fair point, but you won't be getting any surprises when your pads do wear out, as often happens with hydros, because you will be more aware of the amount of wear, because it's you that is doing the adjusting. I know a lot of people used to bad-mouth BB7s for this, I suspect they are using organic pads. In the Tour Aotearoa which was 3000 kms long I tweaked my BB7s once.

If you are someone who worries about potential issues with hydro brakes while bikepacking then they are totally worth considering. I know people say this does not happen, but I know it happened to a few of us on the first Tour Te Waipounamu, with air in our brake lines.

The Equals should be compatible with any mechanical rim-brake groupsets brakes out there, and there are many.

The brakes are short-pull only, so compatible with road levers or specific flat-bar levers that are built for using with road disc, road calipers, mini-vees, or canti's. Shimano makes many of these levers as do some of the boutique makers.

So far my buddy is really happy with the post-mount versions he has installed on his Singular Gryphon singlespeed, using Tektro singlespeed levers, replacing the BB-7s.

Post-mount front

My bike is set up with Sram Red cable brake/shift levers, probably the lightest road levers there are, so your mileage will vary with the overall weight if you use something else. 

I carefully weighed both the Sram hydro brakes and the Equals as I installed them and was impressed to see that the Equals/Red combo were around 7 grams lighter than the hydros on my medium sized bike. The larger the bike, the more your cabling will weigh, by comparison hydraulic hose is very light.


Weight information

Growtac Equal - front brake:
Front cable (80 cm)
Outer - 46 grams
Inner - 12 grams
Lever - 140
Caliper - 136
Tiny bits - 2 grams
336 grams

Growtac Equal - rear brake:
Rear cable (140 cm)
Outer - 79 grams
Inner - 17 grams
Lever - 140
Caliper - 136
Tiny bits - 2 grams
374 grams
Growtac Equal total = 710 grams

 

Sram Force hydro - front brake
Front sram hydro lever + hose - 246 grams
Caliper - 100 grams
Tiny bits 7 grams
353 grams

Sram Force hydro - rear brake
Rear sram hydro lever + hose - 257 grams
Caliper - 100 grams
Tiny bits 7 grams
364 grams
Sram Force Hydro total = 717 grams

 

Pros

  • Strong braking
  • Light weight
  • Great colours
  • Field serviceable
  • Shimano compatible pads


Cons

  • Inner pad adjuster tricky to access with multi-tool allen key.
  • Rear brake cable might benefit from small rubber boot.
  • The outside brake adjuster's tiny rubber grommet could be easily get lost


Cheeky Quail during photo session


Related links

https://theradavist.com/growtac-equal-brakes-long-term-review/
https://www.bikegeardatabase.com/gear/growtac-equal
https://bikerumor.com/review-growtac-equal-mechanical-disc-brakes-bicycle/
https://www.bikeradar.com/features/growtac-equal-mechanical-disc-brakes

Growtac Equal brake adjustment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwINFSxrizI&t=265s

Growtac Equal Brake full break-down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWGguSAWM0s

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